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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 9 hours ago

"Science isn't political!"

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"Science isn't political!"

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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 9 hours ago
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  • GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world
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    1 hour ago

    Someone should.

  • yesman@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Of course science is political. Knowledge is power and all power systems are political.

    But ignoring philosophy, Science is a charity. By in large they must beg for their money. You don’t suppose that the people providing the money have any influence?

    And I’m not talking about junk science, biased studies, or even fraud. A perfectly run study may still be political simply because it was chosen for funding over something else.

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      3 hours ago

      It’s a little more complex than that. Some things:

      • https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2021/09/02/book-review-dark-academia-how-universities-die-by-peter-fleming/
      • https://massivesci.com/articles/chaos-in-the-brickyard-comic-matteo-farinella/

      It’s a structural problem, but still the same problem plaguing the rest of society at the moment.

  • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
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    4 hours ago

    Bacteria is not in the kingdom plantae.

    • _stranger_@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      Your stomach micro biome is plants.

      • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
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        1 hour ago

        That’s interesting. I wonder where the sunlight gets in to my stomach for all those plants to photosynthesize.

        • MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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          1 hour ago

          You eat it, duh!

  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
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    5 hours ago

    Everything is political, and there has never been a time that proves that better than now.

  • lobut@lemmy.ca
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    6 hours ago

    Ah yes, he’s on the show with the very tall and smart scientist Dr Rogan /s

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    7 hours ago

    My mother developed an allergy to Roundup that she thought was celiac until she discovered that organic bread didn’t bother her at all.

  • RobotToaster@mander.xyz
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    8 hours ago

    I can’t tell if this is supposed to be for or against glyphosate?

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      He seems to be… pro-celiac?

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      8 hours ago

      Depends who is making money.

  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    So what does he think he’s found a cure for this time? We’ve done covid, fatness, and autism - is this supposed to be a cure for gluten allergy?

    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      As someone with violent celiacs disease, i can appreciate the allure of something that could cure or alleviate a genuine gluten allergy. It would be absolutely amazing if it were to ever happen.

      But anything coming out of this guy’s mouth is poison, and should be treated as such.

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    8 hours ago

  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Your stomach microbiome is plants

    Which is why I spend a solid 3 hours a day facing the sun with my mouth held wide open. Gotta let my tummy plants photosynthesize somehow.

    • Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 hours ago

      You say that as a joke but I’m pretty sure this clown is also one of the quacks who regularly talked about the “health benefits” of butthole tanning.

      • The Bard in Green@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz
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        3 hours ago

        I once saw him (in person) give a drunken, sloppy, rambling speech to a bunch of high schoolers back in 1999. Calling him a clown is an insult to clowns.

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    I remember that when Roundup first came out, glyphosate was being held up as a brilliant example of herbicide design since it inhibits a vital metabolic pathway in plants that animals don’t have. They even claimed that the surfactants in Roundup were more harmful than the glyphosate itself. I guess that claim didn’t hold up too well.

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    8 hours ago

    Science itself is not political, this is not a science meme, and having looked at your post history I won’t be missing anything by not seeing you again.

    • spinnetrouble@sh.itjust.works
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      8 hours ago

      Assuming you’re a student, have you ever tried to write up a lab report from multiple arguments using the same experiment? It’s a fun exercise in the potential for politics in science because it shows how you can capture and use the same data to argue diametrically opposing points.

      • FishFace@piefed.social
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        7 hours ago

        There is a philosophical distinction between the essence of science and the human application of scientific method. It’s not that important a distinction in practice, but I don’t refrain from pedantry when replying to people who for some reason can’t bring themselves to post in a political memes community.

      • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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        7 hours ago

        https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03177-1

        • spinnetrouble@sh.itjust.works
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          4 hours ago

          Touche! I’m gonna put this on the “…AND ANOTHER THING!!!” list if you’re cool with it

          • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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            4 hours ago

            Always. Knowledge and memes are meant to be shared.

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      8 hours ago

      Byeeee

      • Slowy@lemmy.world
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        8 hours ago

        Your memes give me life, never stop

        • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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          7 hours ago

          Luv u guys too.

  • officermike@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    doesn’t harm organic tissue

    Which is totally why Bayer has settled their lawsuit for several billions of dollars over claims that it causes lymphoma.

    Edit: also, plants are organic tissue.

    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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      3 hours ago

      Also, the stomach’s microbiome isn’t plants…

  • judgyweevil@feddit.it
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    8 hours ago

    He contradicts himself even in his own wacky theories

    • Goodeye8@piefed.social
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      4 hours ago

      Considering wacky theories have a tendency to contradict each other (and itself) it would be far more impressive if his wacky theories weren’t contradictory.

  • Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Science is only political because scientists have to continuously convince politicians reality exists.

    It’s frustrating that something like climate change is even a political discussion at all. Don’t Look Up captured that frustration really well.

    • Tiresia@slrpnk.net
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      7 hours ago

      Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.

      Unfortunately, despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.

      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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        I think we need politics to go beyond one reality, and embrace a subjective multiverse where people can perceive what they want to perceive.

        • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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          Cool cool cool so the climate is pretty fucked and now the way people have lived for millennia will cease to be possible. But at least we were open minded about delusion.

        • Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          If only the idiots could just piss off to their own multiverse of idiocy and leave the rest of us alone

    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz
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      They also have to continually convince politicians and other politically minded people to give them money, and risk having it taken away if their results are politically inconvenient.

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      You can invent a vaccine, but getting people to take it is a different matter entirely and not just because of politicians.

      • starlinguk@lemmy.world
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        Andrew Wakefield managed to fuck up people’s attitude towards vaccines quite well without politics.

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          Inserting things under people’s skin just freaks people out in general. There are so many reasons.

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