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  • Ummm, yeah. I’m not disputing the accuracy of what you’re saying…just that you’re only including one side’s policies in your criticism. You are conveniently omitting the fact that the Soviet Union had nearly identical programs running in parallel to the US. This is also a matter of historical record.

    So, I find the fact that your criticism isn’t equally measured to be somewhat problematic. It is clear evidence that your views are biased. It would be a rather simple thing to acknowledge these parallels and call out both sides for their actions…wouldn’t it?

    This is where the propaganda aspect comes into play. You look at these parallel situations and find a way to make one side look good for doing it, while criticizing the other. That’s how propaganda works. You aren’t telling a lie, exactly…you’re just finding a clever way to misrepresent the truth, in order to support a preconceived narrative. In this case it’s cartoonishly obvious by the fact that your argument is so completely one-sided.


  • See? Again, this is all framed in an incredibly selective way. This is basically just propaganda speak, for “my side can’t do bad things, only your side can”…and I’m not even defending the US. You’re having a one-sided argument with someone who isn’t arguing with any of the points you’re making…only the fact that you’re leaving out all the parts you don’t like, while white-washi g the parts you do. That’s disingenuous.


  • Lol! That’s hilarious. You are proving the point I was making to the other guy, in my last comment. You are selectively omitting all the ways that the Soviet Union did exactly the same thing as the US, after the war.

    The Soviets had Operation Osoaviakhim, which used over 6000 Nazi operatives brought in from all over Nazi occupied territories, for their own missile programs, etc. Both Russia and the US were literally conducting almost identical programs across the spectrum, all the way through the entire cold war. It was

    The fact that you’re just listing one side’s sketchy profile while completely ignoring the other, is the definition of intellectual dishonesty.



  • Lol! Wut? The Soviets didn’t form an “anti-Nazi alliance”…they were allied with the Nazis. They made a deal with them to carve up Eastern Europe between their two empires. This was literally the same cynical opportunism that led the Americans to give sanctuary to Nazi scientists after the war. If this means that Liberals are somehow naturally aligned with fascism, in your mind…then so are Communists, by the same criteria. It simply isn’t true, either way.

    You are being very selective with your outrage here, to the point of being completely disingenuous. A lot of people collaborated with the Nazis for a wide range of reasons. You claiming that paints everyone of that political type with the same brush, is just intellectually dishonest.

    If you were arguing in good faith, you would have to acknowledge that fascists will use anyone of any political persuasion for their own advantage, right up until they are no longer useful…and then stab them in the back. Often literally killing them, en masse. Which is exactly what they did with all their political opponents, in the end.

    That goes for Socialists, Liberals, Anarchists, whatever. Everyone NOT a fascist or a collaborator. There are distinctions between these groups, for a reason. You seem to be ignoring those distinctions, out of purely personal political bias.



  • Are you really suggesting that those people are being somehow prevented from voting, just because the establishment wants them to stay home?

    How weak-minded do you think people are, if all it takes to get them to give up, is to tell them they’ll never win? Again…this is why we’re here, now.



  • Ummm, yeah. You know that if enough people still showed up to vote, none of that would have mattered, right? This is how they convince you to give up. They play their games and brag that they’ve already won, and that nothing you do is going to make any difference…and if enough people believe them and give up…it becomes true. They have the media on their side to create a narrative. But that narrative only holds, if people buy into it. If you say “fuck that” and go vote anyway, and everyone else does the same…that narrative falls apart.



  • You are contradicting yourself with those statements…

    Revolution can only come from an organized revolutionary class.

    …directly contradicts your next sentence…

    The working classes cannot be organized within the boundaries of a capitalist-controlled and dominated party that focuses entirely on legal measures.

    This all makes it sound like the only way to organize your revolution, is to already have overthrown the system that prevents you from organizing your revolution.


  • So, your only solution is violence? Not solidarity?

    I mean, if you think you can achieve anything using the first, without having the second already locked in…you will have cracked the code for universal regime change. I’m pretty sure you could just wave that magic wand and overthrow any government in the world.