Underrated comment ^^

If you re-read my comment you’ll see that I’m nowhere defending Iran’s conduct, so let’s address that.

When unilaterally attacked by a terrorist state neighbour supported by the largest military in the world, I do feel Iran has the moral right to use assymetric warfare to survive. Even more so when that doesn’t cause mass civilian casualty.

Do I condone the oppression the Iranian government did before the war? No.

Do I still believe Iran has the right to sovereignty? Definitely and absolutely.

It is no business of the US to meddle in the political internalities of a country not a credible threat. And even less so at the behest of a rampaging genocidal state using terror to keep neighbours from intervening.

To put it into a simplified analogy: are you arguing dishonestly putting words in my mouth? Yes. Does that give me the right to burn your house down? No.

In the real world it’s both the US treating dishonestly and doing the burning though.

There’s this whole argument about World Policing being Bad ™. But even besides that:

The US is also currently murdering, kidnapping and disappearing thousands of it’s citizens, so it’s not for the moral high ground they’re bombing civilian infrastructure.

Besides, the war will almost certainly lead to more suffering, and probably also lives lost, as a consequence of the destruction, fear, oppression and power struggle following it. So it’s not for humanitarian reasons they’re disrupting international trade and relations.

The US has also made it very clear it only intends to follow international law and treaties when it benefits them, as evidenced with Greenland, Venezuela, Cuba, trade wars, trade and protection treaty violations. So it’s not for any rules based order they’re planlessly and goallessly staging a billion dollar/day terror campaign.

It seems the US is just exercising it’s might and terrorising the world because it wants to. I wonder how long before someone gets fed up with it…

Well put.

I guess this is also why sympathies from wronged friends and allies are running dry.

Unfortunately, I’m of the sort who doesn’t believe that flipping the table will be to the gain to anyone but those with the preparation and resources to grab what they may (which is what they’re doing)

The divide is too deep, and those people too greedy to do anything but provide for their own. The downtrodden won’t come out better from this, either we stop them, or we wait for the next revolution where people will be even more desperate.

The latter leads to more suffering, more death and more blood, if history is any guide.

So what you’re saying is that the country collectively decided Trump was more promising than Harris?

And you’ve found it’s someone else’s fault, so now you don’t have to do anything but sit in the mess?

Good for you.

Now, pardon us as we try to do something about it.

My whole point is that those two are indistinguishable from the outside.

(Although conservatism in general rather than the radicalised form that is fascism)

You don’t get to use that excuse when you re-elected him.

Perhaps the opposition could have done more, results argue that they couldn’t.

Besides, Trump is only the latest of a long trend of GOP candidates and policies all in line with the exact current policy. The opposition may have fought valiantly, and lost ground. From the outside, that looks exactly like a national shift towards the GOP/conservative/christo-fascist.