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  • I mean, if you use yt-dlp, you kinda get why the premium ‘feature’ is a bit of a scam, right? Since yt-dlp actually gives you the video file, not a locked down version you can only play on the app or website (and only when you connected to the internet recently). So if youtube shut yt-dlp down, would you be happy paying for that ‘feature’ now that you can’t bypass it? Because yt-dlp is also just as against Youtube’s ToS as adblocking is, since you also avoid watching ads and Youtube’s DRM on the video. And they try plenty to shut yt-dlp down.

    Of course creators want to diversify, even if YouTube was perfect they don’t want to be dependent on one revenue stream.

    Yes, but there is a distinct difference between diversifying and cutting off an unreliable partner. One is built on entrepreneurship, the other on broken trust. And for smaller creators, those often are much more tied to Youtube and have no real reason to diversify yet at their growth. Yet they still pretty much have to do it, since they cannot rely on Youtube to help them if things go south. Something that would not happen if Youtube was a ‘good’ host.

    About payments: Square charges 30c fixed fee per payment (+%). PayPal charges 49c. Stripe 30c. Ayden 37c. Klarna 30c. Please enlighten me how flat fees are not a thing.

    These are payment processors, not the donation platforms people use (which would be the stand in for Youtube’s 45% cut), like Ko-fi. If that’s what you meant, fair enough, yes for those flat fees still exist without any exception afaik, and indeed if you use the wrong one the fees might be too much for a monthly payment. But that’s hardly the case everywhere. Where I live, the payment processor takes much, much less than Stripe and Paypal, max a cent or two.

    But even with that cut, that doesn’t change a lot though, it’s just a matter of making payments efficiently. Like paying yearly or making a large single donation. Premium might be less payment to processors overall, but 45% is such a large cut that it’s hard to overcome that. And youtube being an unreliable partner, there is also an invisible cut on every payment that makes you less able to detach from them.

    With yearly donations, the math still doesn’t really cut it:

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    Lets say premium costs 14 dollars, and you watch 50 creators and every transaction costs 30c flat cut + 3%.

    168 dollar a year paid yearly -> 162.66 dollar sent to Youtube for cut -> 89.46 dollar to creators after 45% cut

    50 creators -> 1.79 dollar per creator per year

    vs

    168 dollar a year -> 3.36 dollar per creator per year

    50 payments of 3.36 dollars with 30c flat cut + 3% -> 2.96 dollar sent to donation platform for cut -> 5% donation platform cut -> 2.81 dollar per creator per year

    But more realistically, you might send 30 dollars to your top 5 creators for a year, which is 150 dollars a year, and at those amounts the % cut overtakes the flat cut by a long shot.


  • Nobody denies Youtube provides value. It’s the most used video platform in the world. Hence why they called them semi-parastic.

    But the tooling gets neglected. The legal protection at times screws over the very creators you say you stand by. Some premium features are literal scams (eg. downloading videos). Some ads they allow on their platform promote literal scams. They censor comments, videos, and dislikes, often in deceitful ways like pretending nothing is being blocked to the poster. I could go on.

    For a multi-billion dollar company, they provide ample enough reasons to cut them out of the equation as a form of economic protest, and their disloyalty to their creators in many of their decisions is a forever stain on their trust relationship with the public and creators. Which is why Youtube creators routinely try to detach themselves, like streaming on other sites, and why many of them ask you to donate directly instead, so that if Youtube should screw them over (which they have done many times), they can still afford to pay rent.

    Plus donating to 50+ creators would be more money in payment fees alone than what I pay for YouTube.

    That’s just wrong. Flat fees aren’t really a thing anymore. Different donation systems have different fees and most charge a percentage of 5% to 12% compared to the 45% of Youtube. But donating to 50 people would be hard on it’s own. Hence why most of us just donate bigger or more frequently to specific creators we want to support more, and over a large amount of people, that somewhat evens out across creators.

    Look, nobody is saying that it’s bad to have Youtube Premium, but it’s not exactly good either. I used to have it for years, until I found out they were scamming me on a feature I found important. If none of those things are a concern to you, then go ahead. Just don’t deny the rest of us our grievances.





  • Tja, deels eens. Maar ze is uiteindelijk in een zelfde soort positie als Rutte hiermee. Ze is uiteindelijk een diplomaat (en oud VN gezant voor het midden oosten en gaza), waar ze gestopt was omdat ze vanuit die functie er niet genoeg aan kon doen om vrede te bevorderen

    Als Trump je de kans geeft om zijn kwaad te dempen, dan heb ik liever haar daar dan een of andere MAGA maloot die “platbombarderen” als enige optie aanraad.

    Het ligt er allemaal een beetje aan of je gelooft of ze haar missie serieus neemt. Ze had ook kunnen wegstappen van de knoppen en het kwaad laten gebeuren zonder dat ze er deel van is, maar het lijkt er op dat ze probeert toch nog binnen dat kader het kwaad te verminderen.

    Verraad vind ik daar een te sterk woord voor, militair ingrijpen om de VS en Israel dwingen te stoppen met hun genocide is niet bepaald praktisch ongeacht hoe moreel juist het zou zijn, zeker niet voor een alleenstaande diplomaat. Dus dan paden bewandelen die het kwaad verminderen zie ik zeker niet als dat kwaad helpen zonder concrete daden. Er waren in de tijd van de nazi’s ook saboteurs en dubbel agenten die voor de nazi’s werkten.


  • Hate to say it, but you might be missing out on something you won’t ever be able to experience again afterwards. It’s like with episodic releases of TV shows, half the fun is sitting with friends discussing and overthinking what just happened while you wait for the next episode. Being there too long after community wide revelations, you can’t experience that head space of mystery and surprise again. Deltarune handles the episodic releases very well honestly, I’d understand if it was a series of bad partial releases.