They absolutely have not learned, they might vote dem in greater numbers and we’ll get a blue wave, but they are still going to be fundamentally moronic. The blue wave will be blunted by the in-fighting but even if its not and we also get a dem president in 2028 (we almost certainly will) the US will become increasingly hellish and miserable to live in anyway. There will be only so much a democrat can do

I intend to vote dem but that’s just self interest now. I can’t mentally invest in the suffering of masses of people that Republican vs Democrat victories will have because there is nothing I can do about it.

At this point, for your own sanity, I suggest you treat politics like the climate and weather. Which, just like real climate weather is going to get worse, not better. Focus on enjoying what time you have.

You don’t understand. The harm is coming. There isn’t much we can do now. It hardly even matters who wins in future elections at this point, the amount even the most progressive admin could do for decades is a tiny dent. All progressivism can achieve now is hospice care. Give us a metaphorically better drug as things get progressively worse.

The environment is collapsing. We’ve alienated all of our allies. We’ve allowed AI corporations to capture massive amounts of value with a direct threat to the working person’s employment. America’s aging demographics and newly massively expanded debt is going to cripple any kind of ability for a progressive government to make the average person’s life worth living. Trump and his fascist buddies are going to get mostly away with it, submitting our country to future grifters who realize they’ll suffer no consequences. They very core of our government structure now in a iron grip of fascist judges spread across ever nook and cranny, virtually impossible to remove. Dooming us to conservative social policy for the rest of our miserable fucking lives.

And for what? Palestine is as hellish as ever, if not far worse. And now we’re at war with Iran.

We lost, and you are just coping. We will both burn slowly and painfully. And I’ll know I tried to avoid this and know people like yourself did not.

I am disgusted at rightwing and zionist democrats, and I tell them such. I tell them I hate them as well. On the internet at least. But they aren’t here and I also hate non-voters. And non-voting people are actually all around me. I’m reminded of their petulant stupidity constantly. They’re all over Lemmy. They fill my small city’s bar’s with their bullshit “Both sides bad” rhetoric. I talk to them in person frequently, though I’d be a pariah if I admitted to them what I think of either group, but the vast majority of the stupidity is from the non-voters.

actual left

shitlibs

Liberals we’re literally the original leftwing. They’re where the term comes from, they were on the literal leftwing during the french revolution’s republic.

But also, who cares? Who gives a fuck if someone is part of “The actual left”? What a stupid thing to care about.

Is it just a fucking badge or something?

Instead of attempting to divide the actual left with loser memes, these shitlibs should think harder about why they’re fash collaborators.

“These people need to understand how they’re wrong and how I’m right. No I wont explain why.”

(Also you could probably put everything under trump beneath kamala too. Effectively at least.)

Probably huh? Real convincing. IDK about everyone else, but I’m sold! Kamala Harris totally would have shut down USAID, created a massive brownshirt organization with gigantic funding, opened up horrific camps of immigrants, started a war with Iran to distract from her ties to Epstein…

How do you do this every day? How do you wake up in the morning and legitimately fucking tell yourself these things are true? What the fuck is going on in your god damned brain?

“Guilt tripping” I don’t give a shit how guilty they are.

I simply I hate them, they are shitty people. There is no amount of guilt they could feel that would change that. They have done incredible damage through their apathy or abstemiousness, hurt countless people immediately and in the future. They’ve hurt millions of people. They’ve hurt people I love. They’ve hurt me.

FUCK THEM.

The idea that “not voting” is them doing anything to “get out of our dystopic shit hole political system” is aggressively fucking stupid.

It doesn’t matter if I convince them that they were wrong now. We already got the bad result. Us getting democrats in office (or hell, even someone actually progressive) in the midterms and even the presidency in the future will barely put a dent into the massive damage that has been done. They’ve successfully dragged people into a sea of shit and we’re probably all going to drown in it.

Unfortunately, I’m infected with the “Why do something unless you’re trying to get gud?”

Which means, I’ll try something for a while and if I think I have some base talent as a foundation and I don’t have anything else I’m obsessed with at the time I’m absolutely going to fixate on it until I’m really good. But if I think I’m doomed to mediocrity I completely lose interest in it. Note that I don’t have to start off good, I just need to feel an intuition of “Oh, I could go somewhere with this.”

I suck at bowling and I don’t ever want to do it. I only begrudgingly do it because friends drag me to it and if they let me I’ll sit out and just chit chat instead of actually playing.

Its consciousness, not conscience. Conscience is specifically one’s moral awareness.

Also its closer to 4 billion years.

That said, I understand her anger about stupid people. And people who slut shame can die in a fire.

I wasn’t the one they were originally interacting with and personally had no desire to be the one they debated, the topic itself isn’t interesting because its one of pure unhinged lunacy. Like, they’re clearly operating in two separate realities. I just noticed that your fellow went to insult the moment they were challenged after posting what they posted instead of having a rebuttal to the challenge itself.

Hell, they could have explicitly come to some kind of reasoning why they thought the point or framing was itself invalid, but they did not even bother. Their gut reaction was to insult, almost certainly out of fear and anger that someone make them rethink anything or justify the shit they post.

If that is someone’s first instinct, they are an intellectual coward. Full stop. At best you are an apologist for it.

Its incredibly fragile and weak, if someone can’t back up what they have to say they’re just bullshitting and don’t want to be called out on it. Its legitimately fucking pathetic.

They wont.

Absolutely vacuous intellectual cowardice. You almost deserve a trophy.