This is a left unity comm, not an anarchist comm. Different opinions on the nature and purpose of the state are allowed and expected.

You’re going to be able to tell who works for a defense contractor by who is bothered by this meme.

You’re going to be able to tell who works for a defense contractor by who is bothered by this meme.

OK, thanks for explaining. But this is a meme comm, so people post memes on it. It’s not a place where you can engage in real activism, that’s not what it’s for.

What criticism? You can’t even criticize me because you know nothing about me lol

You’re replying pretty defensively to a meme criticizing American troops. If it’s not about you, then there was no need to reply.

Everyone wants to be a victim. No one wants to do the hard work to protect the victims. Human nature.

But whining about it online doesn’t change shit.

Are you kidding me? What do you know about Salamence’s life, situation, or actions? What gives you the right to lecture like this?

Victim of American empire:

Dont blame me, im one of the victims of your fascist empire

(Presumably) American:

We live in an interconnected world. The fascist empire exists in part because the world allows it to.

Are you kidding?

Surely no “leftist” is going to get incredibly mad about this good post in the comments.

Liberals love to call it infighting because it allows them to take credit for all the progress that happened thanks to leftists. And yet they’re always on the right-wing side of those “infights”.

I apologize, you’re not hemming and hawing over genocide. You’re supporting it to “look smarter”.

The internet is awesome. You can discuss genocides with someone who named himself after an dictator who did several genocides! Who has a picture of this dictactor in his profile! And this guy is attacking others for “defense of genocide”! Great invention this internet thingy!

We have found the most historically literate feddit user.

No, this one is just a self-serving fabrication by a few nazi-supporting governments.

I’ve never said that the people resisting their genocide were wrong to do it. You’re intentionally misinterpreting what I’m saying.

No, I’m really not. You’re all over this thread repeating hasbara lies about Hamas and misrepresenting the history of “Israel” in comparison to the history of the Holocaust (you correctly include the Warsaw Ghetto in the Holocaust but appear to think the Nakba isn’t relevant).

You might actually have convinced yourself that this is principled and nuanced anti-zionism, but it’s not. You are being a zionist and I urge you to reconsider your positions on this.

I don’t disagree with you, that’s why I tried to explain the nuance, but apparently I failed, I’m sorry about that.

You didn’t fail to explain what you mean, I understood that. Where you failed is that you are, knowingly or unknowingly, manufacturing nuance that does not exist.

The ability to recognize the genocide in Gaza as a genocide is very much there

Only while saying the people resisting it are also wrong and doing Holocaust exceptionalism in defense of liberal zionists, lmao.

And now let’s go back to the original zionist accusations. The original comment was removed because of the last part of it, which said “Providing material support to Israel is no different from providing material support to Nazi Germany”. As much as people don’t want to see it, the situation in Gaza is actually different than the situation in Nazi Germany. The Jewish population in Nazi Germany never launched rockets at Germans, in fact, jewish people in Nazi Germany were exceptionally peaceful. In Gaza, there is genocide happening, there is a power differential, and Palestinians need to fight back, but there is simply no rational denying that it’s not the same as the genocide in Nazi Germany.

The original comment was good and correct. Supporting one settler state committing genocide is actually the same as supporting another.

I didn’t dodge theirs, I directly addressed it. Their “criticism” is a form of genocide denial. They are fabricating “equivalent” atrocities to a real genocide. Similarly, your “neutral observer” trick here is a cheap way to pretend you’re not taking a side in an argument so that you can dodge criticism of the side you are picking. See the irony?

If you really see support of genocide and zionism in what I said, I really don’t know what I could say to convince you. It seems you’re not truly listening to me and trying to understand.

Oh no, people are not trying to understand your subtle and nuanced argument of “Palestinian genocide and the Holocaust are different because the Jews never fought back”.

Can you explain why Germans have learned absolutely nothing from the Holocaust?

America and Western Europe were more interested in fighting the cold war, so they rehabilitated most of the nazis and put them in charge of everything.

In 1957, 77% of the [West German Justice Ministry’s] senior officials were former Nazis, which, according to the study, was a higher proportion that during Hitler’s Third Reich government, which existed from 1933 to 1945.

This is only one small example, the practice was widespread in West German as well as NATO generally.

That report also found that 14% of workers in the East German Interior Ministry were former Nazis — a surprising finding, considering the communist government’s purportedly rigorous effort to rid itself of former Nazis.

Notice the extreme difference here, between 77% and 14%. Even if East Germany’s de-nazification was probably not as thorough as it could and should have been due to practical concerns, it was still nothing like in the West. I’m saying this because I fully expect the “both sides did it” deflection from westerners (which is what the linked article is obviously trying to do in this quote). Notice also “senior officials” vs. “workers”.

True. But a lot of people on the whole Fediverse seem to be very narrow-minded black-and-white thinkers.

“Black and white thinking” is when you don’t like people who defend their defense of genocide by saying “it’s the law”?

This “we vs. them” attitude is exactly what’s been criticized about MAGA all of the time, but doing it in this case is perfectly legitimate, somehow. I don’t know what kind of brain gymnastics you’ll have to do to come to a conclusion like this.

“Opposing genocide is the same as being MAGA because of vibes” is really incredible analysis, keep it up.

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Sometimes I wonder if German instances are a social experiment and our reactions are being recorded and analyzed.

“Hemming and hawing over genocide is disgusting.”

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Unlike yourself and that other user, who are simply neutral observers? lmao