“This is how we should order our lives together,” he said. “And frankly, yes, we are going to impose it upon you. If you don’t like it, I’m sorry, but this is good and right and just if it lines up with God’s standards, and I am going to enforce my morality on you in as much as our morality is God’s morality.”
“You should always check yourselves,” he continued. “Do I believe what God believes? Am I defending what God says is good?”
“And if it is, then you should have the courage to say, ‘This is how we’re going to run our town, this is how we’re going to run our county, this is how we’re going to run our state, and this is how we should run the United States of America by legislating the morality that we can find in the Bible.'”
They can’t even impose Christian values on themselves. And that’s what I’ve noticed about control freaks: those who can’t control themselves will absolutely try to control everyone else. Virtue by proxy is a hell of a vice.
How are they going to impose Christian values if they don’t know what those are?
Clearly, based on their voting history, those values are to horde wealth and rape children.
Hating gays and black people. They know them very well. Oh yeah and raping kids. They predator handshake with christians about that
I think the Bible I read had the pages where Jesus raped kids and slung racist slurs at minorities ripped out.
“Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.” - Denis Diderot
Theocracies must die.
Amen
I have rarely seen a nation further from “christian values” than the United States at this moment.
I’m not christian, but I think my moral values of not committing heinous acts are superior to the Christian values of those acts being ok if you ask sky daddy forgiveness afterwards.
Raised Catholic, currently atheist:
That’s not really what is said in the bible about forgiveness - it’s very clearly stated that god knows your heart and there is no forgiveness without true penance. That’s not “say 5 hail mary’s and 3 lord’s prayer and you’re all good”, that’s a run-off effect of the middle-ages “indulgences”, where someone could be “forgiven” their sins for a payment to the church.
Actual forgiveness as described several times in the bible explicitly requires the confessor to be truly sorry for their sin (contrition), and a real commitment to do better in the future. This is a fairly concise summary of what the bible says about contrition, confession and forgiveness: https://biblehub.com/topical/c/contrition.htm
TL;DR - There is no forgiveness if you are not truly sorry and if you don’t do your best to be better.
Ah, I see you’re trying to crusade, please indulge me: is correcting somebody who’s being facetious and antichristian worth your time while you could be doing something to fight white christofascism? Or are you providing them smokescreen?
Not sure how you got that from my comment, or why you decided to be snarky in your reply, but whatever. My statement is that even in their dogma, they’re doing it wrong and if any of it were true, they’d be going to hell regardless.
And the head of their entire structure has never been religious and, in fact, matches their description of the anti-Christ.
They even carry the mark of the beast upon their heads.
The non Harris voters here defiantly standing on their own in the corner pretending this is somehow equal to Harris being president are pathetic.
Harris is a neoliberal so not nearly as progressive as I would like but on election day I still voted for her.
She was orders of magnitude the less awful candidate.
Yeah agreed I wanted Warren. But like, anyone trying to semantic argue staying home, or saying they’re proud they didn’t vote this time are worse than trump supporters.
Let’s be real, you had to be bad at your job to loose that race. It’s pathetic we’re making excuses for our “leaders” when they led us down this path for so long. Still would vote for her again though .
What excuses did I make for them? I’m calling out the people who didn’t pull the fucking lever, or stayed at home because they were pissed they were going to get 30% of what they wanted instead of 0% of what they’re getting.
To sit at home while you could prevent all this bullshit is tacit approval for what trump is doing. It’s as simple as that.
You are right that is how voters act, to expect otherwise is to excuse leadership that refuses to grapple with that reality.
Voters had their chance to vote their hearts in the primary. After that, it’s ‘stop fascism.’
And no, this is not an invitation to debate ‘well the Democrats didn’t have a primary’ because Biden was the nominee until he fucking stepped aside like all the progressives wanted.
If you don’t even debate whether there should have been a primary after a statement like that then okay, let’s say you’re right about voters, then what? How does this lesson inform your actions going forward?
Because at least with my perspective the goal is to get better leadership to win more voters over. With your perspective what are we doing exactly? Lecturing voters? Waiting for more faces to be eaten?
Biden was the nominee. He was the incumbent president who was nearly a top 3rd president with a historically tight congress.
He dropped out to acquiesce to the liberal people screaming he was too old, and his VP ran in his stead. There was no fucking time for a primary.
Or do you simply forget that this isn’t a perfect world, and you have to make the best decision you can make with the options you’re given.
There was no fucking pony and rainbows and a pot of gold for everyone. The choice was Kamala or the fucking Nazi, and way too fucking many liberals and leftists were seemingly okay with the Nazi because their precious little feelings weren’t individually addressed by the person running against the fucking Nazi.
Mmm yes I’m sure the fact she is a woman of colour had no influence whatsoever
The main thing is that you know better then the consultants the Democrats hired who said it would be okay. Does that make their leadership sound any more capable?
Yeah, I mean some people are trying to bring back the pet rock, doesn’t mean it’s going to work.
Most people are tired of religion and all of its hypocritical rules and guidelines. Then you learn that a large portion of leaders in religions are pedophiles and abusers.
No real “OOOOOOOHHH SHINYYY” moment for people to want to join.
Just like Republicans… religion has outlived its usefulness and the only way to remain is to force your ideas on people…fucking assholes need to all go live in Oklahoma or Missouri together and create their perfect Utopia of ignorance, racism and hate.
I’ve always thought of jesusians as predatory because they target the most vulnerable people for their brainwashing.
Forcing Jews to have Christian values is NOT Anti Semetic! Anti Semetic is when you DONT Bomb Children!
-Republicans, The ADL AND AIPAC!
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the Earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the Sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you…
Oh, not these values.
Right wing American politics has made a mockery out of Christianity.
Unironically how these people read that list:
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Read: the poor in spirit die first.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Read: We will kill those who mourn
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the Earth.
Read: Once the greenhouse gasses are no longer tolerable. We going to Mars, suckas
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied.
Read: killing those who oppose me is what is righteous.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Read: we don’t even bully the Mexican guy on our squad, he’s pretty cool guy
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Read: white
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the Sons of God.
Read: kill those who oppose you until there is no more opposition and you will become Jesus.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Read: God needs me to kill ANTIFA
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
Read: you have my permission to kill the infidels.
Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you…
Read: don’t question your mission. You and all your pedo friends can fuck teenage girls or something, after you die for this cause.
…yep. those are them alright.
Right wing American politics has made a mockery out of Christianity.
So, they’re the pharisees?
So eating shrimp will be a capital crime?
More so than storming it when an election doesn’t go your way.
Okay, yes, but Harris didn’t support the proletariat enough.
our morality is God’s morality
That’s because you invented your idea of God to match your own prejudices.
Do I believe what God believes?
Humans have beliefs and opinions. If you think that which creates and sustains the universe has beliefs and opinions, it strongly suggests you’re overly likening it to yourself. Once again, you’re projecting your own prejudices.
Just another case of assholes inventing God in their own image and claiming it went the other way round.
If it’s “love thy neighbor,” then great.
If it’s “be bigoted pieces of shit,” then I’m sorry, but hail Satan— and I meant “sorry” as earnestly as you meant it, fucko.
Christian mental gymnastics turns bigotry into being loving. Since Christians do not comprehend love without fear and shame, they are unable to actually be loving without hurting others.
