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danhab99@programming.dev to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 days ago

Even if democracy is mathematically impossible

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Even if democracy is mathematically impossible

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danhab99@programming.dev to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 days ago
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  • scarabic@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    For fucks sake write an essay.

  • Hapankaali@lemmy.world
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    Instant runoff voting with single-member districts still leads to a two-party system. Australia is a current practical example.

    What you need is proportional representation with multi-member districts, or a mixed system with leveling seats.

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    It actually came up for a vote in seven different places in the US in 2024, very simple “Yes or No” vote.

    Colorado - Voted no. 53.5% to 46.5%
    https://coloradosun.com/2024/11/05/colorado-proposition-131-results/

    Idaho - Voted no. 69.6% to 30.4%
    https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/11/06/election-2024-idaho-proposition-1-ballot-initiative-trailing-in-early-unofficial-election-results/

    Nevada - Voted no. 53% to 47%
    https://nevadacurrent.com/2024/11/05/nevada-voters-reject-open-primaries-ranked-choice/

    Oregon - Voted no. 57.7% to 43.3%
    https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2024/11/05/results-indicate-voters-opposing-measure-117-on-switch-to-ranked-choice-voting/

    Washington, DC - Voted yes. 73% to 27%
    https://campaignlegal.org/cases-actions/safeguarding-dc-voters-adoption-ranked-choice-voting-and-semi-open-primaries-wilson

    Alaska - Voted to keep it. Barely. 50.1% to 49.9%
    https://alaskabeacon.com/2024/11/20/alaska-chooses-to-keep-ranked-choice-voting-begich-defeats-peltola-unofficial-results-show/

    Missouri - Voted to ban it. 68.4% to 31.6%
    https://www.kcur.org/politics-elections-and-government/2024-11-05/missouri-amendment-7-ranked-choice-voting-noncitizen

    Bonus: Portland, Oregon used it in their Mayoral and City Council elections, District 1 saw a 20% drop in voter participation on the ranked choice options. People simply skipped them.

    https://www.opb.org/article/2024/12/03/most-portlanders-understood-ranked-choice-election-poll-finds-but-theres-work-to-do/

    “According to the city’s elections office, of the District 1 voters who participated in the November election, only 43% voted in the City Council race. (In other districts council race participation ranged from 64% to 66%).”

    • Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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      I hated the Missouri one as someone from there cause they lumped it in with banning non-citizens from being able to vote, which they already weren’t allowed to do. They know people here are fucking morons driven by media fear so they used that to get rid of ranked choice for good.

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    If you’re going to spend that much time typing, at least run it through a word processor to add punctuation and check that you’re not saying “we’re” when you mean to be saying “where”.

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    Good luck finding compromise now in days. I don’t think the left and right are even compatible anymore. Like fuck, everything has been so bulkanized on both sides to the point that no one even agrees with their side either. Not that I’m advocating centrism, the right wing are monsters, but to say we can only do things all sides agree with will make sure NOTHING happens

    • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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      The left and right were never compatible. They are diametrically oppositional forces.

    • Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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      Yet that’s all the Dems want to do in their endless game of “compromises” even when in power.

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        The last time Dems had a super majority and filibuster proof majority(briefly), we got the second most productive Congress in history. Not to mention the Affordable Care Act.

        The 111th Congress was the most productive congress since the 89th Congress.[7] It enacted numerous significant pieces of legislation, including the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, and the New START treaty.

        Edit: oh, also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/117th_United_States_Congress

        Despite Democrats holding thin majorities in both chambers during a period of intense political polarization, the 117th Congress oversaw the passage of numerous significant bills,[3][4] including the Inflation Reduction Act, American Rescue Plan Act, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, Postal Service Reform Act, Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, CHIPS and Science Act, Honoring Our PACT Act, Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act, and Respect for Marriage Act.[4]

        • Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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          You mean Obamacare? The thing they neutered to hell and back to appease conservatives?

          • PunnyName@lemmy.world
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            You and I both agree, conservatives are the problem.

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    one of the benefits of ranked-choice voting is that it often requires a candidate to earn >50% of the vote for them to succeed, which theoretically would hopefully result in better satisfaction of candidates - under the current “first past the post” system, a lot of people win with a minority of the overall vote (often 40% of the vote or less), which predictably leads to nobody being particularly happy with their representatives

    now, I don’t think ranked-choice voting will solve corruption or dissatisfaction with representatives who don’t fulfill their promises, but I do think it would help the situation and make it harder for bad representatives to get elected (or re-elected)

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    Brevity is dead.

    • starik@lemmy.zip
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      TS;DR

    • bottleofchips@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Brevity 💀

  • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Still think counsel democracy is fire

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    You can tell this is a leftist meme because it’s got way too much text on it.

  • starik@lemmy.zip
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    We’re to begin with this one…

    • danhab99@programming.devOP
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      Where sorry that being my voice keyboard and I

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    Memes that are mostly a long chunk of text really benefit from proper spelling and capitalization.

    • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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      Not to mention grammar, looking at you “we’re”.

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