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    If your enemy executes their prisoners, you learn two things:

    1. You should never surrender.
    2. You should never take prisoners when you fight them.
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      It’s like these insane old fucks running the world actually want to make sure that part of their legacy is leaving a constant trail of traumatized "other"s in their wake that will grow into the “terrorist” targets for the next generation to kill.

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    holy shit, isreal has done a complete 180. that is nazi level thinking. like hardcore nazi thinking.

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      Sorry, but no, that’s not right.

      Your perception of Israel has done a complete 180.

      Israel, however, hasn’t changed. This is what it’s always been.

  • Lucas Luck (He/She)@lemmy.cafe
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    DOWN WITH ISRAEL!!!

    FREE PALESTINE!!!

    BOW TO YOUR NEW RULER, SQUIDWARD TENTACLES, GOD OF SOCIALISM AND LEFTISM AND ALL THINGS ANTI-MAGA!!!

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    It’s like they have this problem with all these prisoners and camps and stuff and they need one more remedy. A last result of some kind. Like an ultimate fix. Hmmmm

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        Its quite amazing that hebrew is a language that can’t be translated by machine due to its phonetic nature. They future proofed the language at conception well before computers existed.

  • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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    Putting that aside, under what jurisdiction can they make arrests when they’re occupying internationally recognized sovereign territories. The Palestinians aren’t subject to their laws.

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        Fair enough, but the law binds its subjects as much as it does its judiciary. In other words, if the Israeli government can break the laws when it comes to Palestinians, what prevents it from doing the same to Israeli citizens? How can any citizenry be okay with this?

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          What you say is totally rational, which is why many of the people supporting these monsters are doing it for irrational reasons. Things like hate, anger, and bigotry seem to be very effective right now!

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          And thus you get the “and I did not speak up”. Everyone who is not affected at first thinks it won’t happen, when it does start happening to them, it’s too late.

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      While I mostly agree, it’s really “organized” religion that is the problem. Not religion itself. And of course organized religion is just humans fucking each other over. It’s like the land was taken, so they needed another dimension to form thier group around so they could have power and influence. So they went with religion. It’s much more profitable.

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          Christianity post-Jesus but pre-Constantine. They met in small groups in a person’s home. It was a book club for how to be a better person because (setting atheist skepticism aside) that was Jesus’ original teaching.

          Once it became a state religion, it was all about the power. After the fall of Rome, the Catholic Church was effectively a nation state - controlling territory, collecting taxes, etc.

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          You can believe in whatever you want, and that would be religion. Lots of people have their own flavor of religion. Even people who go to services often have their own flavor that doesn’t line up with any specific religion. I think there is like a whole religion around simply believing in some form of god. Unitarian I think they call. Not sure if it is actually organized or not. But once you have a human leader and a body that tells all others of a religion what to do, then you are organized. And that leader and body that makes descisions for the rest is the problem.

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            When it gets down to the personal, singular level I tend to refer to it as spirituality rather than religion. When you scale it up to an organizational nature and have leadership and such that’s when I call it religion. So at least, in my brain, the word religion itself implies organization.

            Am I working with incorrect definitions of the words spirituality and religion? And if so, then what is the difference between the two?

            • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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              Words don’t mean the same thing to everyone. And there is no real authority. Websters dictionary company or whatever is sometimes seen as one, but they are just a company trying to sell a product. So I don’t think there is a rule on this. Since organized religion is a phrase used in various places, it implies the existance of unorganized religion. This would probably be a group of people who all believe the same thing, but there is no leadership and such. That would be tough to fit under spirituality. But neither interpretation is really wrong.

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      Imagine being so fucking delusional that you wear a religious head piece at the same time you wear a glorified icon of a murder tool. How can anyone take this seriously.

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    Where are all the “But Kamala will be worse for Gaza” people at?

    We are months away from them just setting up mobile crematoriums at the end of the exit hallway from an empty courtroom.

    Whats that? They were pretty much all bots? Crazy.

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      This is literally a situation where Kamala would do NOTHING AT ALL towards Israel different from what Trumps is doing - i.e. not doing anything about it.

      Of all the possible scenarios you could use to point out that Lesser Evil is not Greater Evil, this is the worst one since Kamala would do the same toward Israel as Trump, but be more of an hypocrite about it (like saying some bullshit about “the US does not interfere with internal Israeli affairs” whilst sending them more bombs).

      It would be way better to compare the actions of a possible non-Evil candidate that the Democracts should have fielded (but did not because the party is under the control of evil sociopaths) with those of Trump.

      “What would Bernie have done?” sounds like a much better question to suggest here as the contrast with Trump would be huge.

      Of course, pointing out that there are several Democrats who would act way differently from Trump or Kamala in this would bring up the point that a party which sidelined non-evil candidates in order to field a “as evil as possible but just shy of the other party’s” Presidential candidate needs to change and that would be questioning the perfection of he tribe and the quality of its chiefs, a step too far for a tribalist party faithful parroting “those who didn’t vote for Kamala ‘voted’ for Trump” DNC propaganda …

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        Say what you want but Kamala would not have stuck her micropenis in the Iranian hornets nest

        Trump did. Gaza has still been obliterated. The rest of the middle east is on fire. The global economy is turbofucked for probably the rest of our lives.

        Also netanyahu doesn’t have any tapes of Kamala from Jeffery.

        ¯\(ツ)

        • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          So, Kamala would be less incompetent than Trump (such a low barrier that literally a stone I got out of my shoe the other day is less incompetent than Trump).

          Meanwhile, Bernie would have stopped support of Israel when they started Genociding in Gaza.

          The difference between Kamala and Trump is an inch, the difference between Bernie and Trump is a yard.

          Strangelly the “Kamala beats Trump” parrots never seem to mention the alternatives to Kamala who could have been the Democrat Party candidate and are vastly better than BOTH Kamala and Trump.

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              One wonders why some relentlessly insist in treating the selection of a Democrat Party presidential candidate as a fait accomplit which should not be looked at, criticized or challenged, whilst treating the Presidential vote in a completelly different way.

              The idea that the choice of candidate matters not implies that who the candidates are has no influence whatsoever in who gets elected, which is not at all consistent with the observed results of US Presidential elections over the years.

              Surely anybody wanting that America is better led, rather than driven above all by party loyalty, when trying to figure out what went wrong in order to avoid a repetition of it, will look at the entire process rather than treating some of the choices that led to a Trump win and those who made them as “beyond question, it is as it is” whilst at the same time treating other choices and those who made it as “entirelly to blame for the outcome”.

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      Tired of Americans making everything about scoring points in their internal politics.

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      The only difference is she would have said “this sets a dangerous precedent for the future of democracy”, get called an antisemite, and then walk back her statement without doing anything.

    • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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      Where are all the “But Kamala will be worse for Gaza” people at?

      What would she have done differently, and why said different policy has not been implemented before?

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        putin has her come out of the permafrost every 4 years. Surprisingly both her and rfk jr had 1million+votes each, thats mean there were 2 million dumb conservatives that voted for “not trump”